Could Fordham escape the A-10 cellar?

For the past three seasons Fordham has finished last in the Atlantic 10. The Rams won a combined two games during the 2008-09 season through the 2010-11 season. Tom Pecora’s team is certainly improving, as seen by their win at Siena and a tough loss to St. John’s, but there is a long way to go. Still, the Rams might be able to escape the cellar this season because a new team is really struggling this season.

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Turnovers don’t tell the story of Fordham’s youth

Fordham has a young team. Tom Pecora is running out freshman and sophomores in a number of key places in the rotation. Typically when people think “youth” in college basketball it automatically equates to “turnovers,” but as the Rams’ 56-50 loss to St. John’s on Saturday in the MSG Holiday Festival proved, there’s much more to the equation.

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Moving in Different Directions

Game #8-220: Fordham Rams at Manhattan Jaspers

December 7, 2011 7:00 pm
Draddy Gymnasium
BBState Stats/Recap

Just walking into Draddy Gymnasium, you knew that this game was different. For one, there were students in the stands. A lot of students. And they were all wearing white. Usually the Jasper Jungle has a few hardy souls that have come to root on Manhattan, but tonight it was full. (We’ll ignore the fact that Jaspers, named after Brother Jasper from the late 19th century, probably shouldn’t be in a jungle in the first place.)

Why was this game different Why were CBS’ Jon Rothstein and other members of the New York media here Why had a couple St. John’s students made the trip up to the Bronx just to watch the game It wasn’t because Manhattan had won its last two games in convincing fashion to start off 2-0 in MAAC play; it was because this was the Battle of the Bronx. Fordham had come across the borough to Riverdale, and this game was for all the marbles.

This was the 104th edition of this game that the two teams have been playing almost continuously for 100 years now. This season, it featured a hot young Manhattan team led by Steve Masiello and Rick Pitino’s Louisville wizardry that he’d brought back to Riverdale. (In fact, Rothstein would tweet during the game that Manhattan looked like a “AAA version” of the current No. 4 team in the nation.) At 5-4 and 2-0 in league play, there was some buzz that maybe this team really was back. A new era of Manhattan basketball was starting.

There was some of that same buzz at Fordham just last season. Tom Pecora took over the Rams after coaching at Hofstra, and it was supposed to be the start of something new. But no one realized just how much work he was going to have to do.

For unlike Masiello, who seems to have inherited the pieces that nicely fit into his pressing, aggressive offensive scheme, Pecora started to build from the ground up. He had a few nice pieces like Chris Gaston, but he needed more.

And then Manhattan zoomed past. Junior George Beamon, Manhattan’s star player, scored eight points before the Rams even knew what hit them. The early hole was too much. The Jaspers kept the Rams at bay for the rest of the first half and then put the pedal to the metal in the second half, roaring away for a convincing 81-47 victory.

The students were delighted. As sophomore Rhamel Brown sent back two Fordham shots in the same possession the crowd yelled with excitement. Both teams have a lot of new faces this season, but it was obvious that these two teams are moving in different directions.

Fordham is struggling. Pecora has recruited talented young players, but they’re still learning to play together. The pieces haven’t gelled quite yet. The wins have been hard to come by. Everything needs to go right.

Manhattan is rising up. A sleeping giant at the end of the 1 train, the Jaspers won 20-plus games in five of the six seasons between 2001-02 and 2005-06. They were once a MAAC titan. Now that energy is back.

When Masiello came to Manhattan he brought with him a fascination for players around 6-foot-6 that can do everything on the court. Classifying Emmy Andujar and Donovan Kates as guards or forwards is a matter of semantics. Andujar, a freshman from the Bronx, is listed as a forward, but he’s got a great basketball IQ and the ability to push the ball by himself in transition.

It was fitting, then, that after the game Andujar was named the MVP of the Battle of the Bronx. He scored 14 points, grabbed seven boards and dished out seven assists, but his contribution was much more than that what was in the box score. He is part of a new group of players at Manhattan.

After the game, Masiello said that even though the Jaspers were 6-4, he wasn’t happy. He expected to be 9-1 after its first 10 games. (I guess he understood that beating Syracuse at the Carrier Dome would’ve been the tallest of orders.) You can live with being unsatisfied if the end result is still this good. For two teams met in an arena on Wednesday night, and left heading in two very different directions.

at MANHATTAN 81, FORDHAM 47
12/07/2011

FORDHAM 3-4 (0-0)– D. McMillan 4-11 4-8 12; B. Smith 1-3 0-0 3; A. Estwick 2-7 0-0 5; B. Frazier 3-8 2-2 9; C. Gaston 4-7 0-0 8; K. Bristol 0-0 0-0 0; R. Canty 2-2 1-3 5; L. Samuell 0-3 1-4 1; M. Dominique 1-2 0-0 2; J. Short 0-4 2-2 2; L. Zivkovic 0-3 0-0 0. Totals 17-50 10-19 47.

MANHATTAN 6-4 (2-0)– E. Andujar 5-7 3-5 14; G. Beamon 5-9 2-4 15; R. Colonette 3-8 1-2 7; M. Alvarado 3-4 5-5 12; K. Brutus 1-4 0-0 2; D. Kates 2-5 4-6 10; L. McCabe-Moran 3-7 2-2 10; R. Brown 3-6 3-4 9; M. Koita 0-1 0-0 0; R. McCoy 0-0 0-0 0; D. Anderson 0-3 0-0 0; K. Laue 1-1 0-0 2. Totals 26-55 20-28 81.

Three-point goals: FORD 3-17 (A. Estwick 1-4; B. Frazier 1-3; D. McMillan 0-2; J. Short 0-4; B. Smith 1-2; L. Zivkovic 0-2), MAN 9-19 (L. McCabe-Moran 2-6; G. Beamon 3-3; M. Alvarado 1-1; K. Brutus 0-2; D. Anderson 0-1; E. Andujar 1-1; D. Kates 2-5); Rebounds: FORD 28 (K. Bristol 6), MAN 39 (R. Colonette 9); Assists: FORD 5 (B. Frazier 3), MAN 16 (E. Andujar 7); Total Fouls — FORD 23, MAN 20; Fouled Out: FORD-None; MAN-None.

Looking at Fordham’s foursome

For Fordham this season is going to come down to how fast three young players can develop and make an impact. Understandably that means the offense has struggled a bit through the first four games. Tuesday night against Colgate, a 79-69 win, was the first time Fordham had cracked a point per possession on offense all season. Still, four games into the season is enough to at least start getting a feel for the young guys.

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Three Questions – Fordham

As the season approaches every team has questions. This series is going to look at three key ones.

1. Can the Rams avoid finishing last in the Atlantic 10? — Fordham is 2-46 in Atlantic 10 play the past three seasons. The Rams haven’t finished higher than 12th since the 2006-07 season, when they went 18-12. Right now though a 12th place finish seems impossible (though one person is on record for it), but getting out the basement of the standings could happen.

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Who isn’t a BracketBuster?

Sixteen conferences and 142 teams are participating in BracketBusters this season. While most people are making jokes about how everyone gets to play, it’s interesting to see which conferences aren’t present this season. For instance, the Atlantic 10, Great West, Northeast Conference and the Ivy League present four examples of why a conference would sit out an event that offers 26 schools a decent bit of national exposure (and the rest a home-and-home series).

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Atlantic 10 Tournament Moving to Brooklyn

The Atlantic 10 Conference Tournament is leaving Atlantic City and heading to the brand new Barclays Center in Brooklyn starting in 2013. There were rumors that the ACC Tournament might also be moving to the Barclays, so the A-10 had to move fast if they wanted the venue. It’s a good thing they did, because moving to New York City at the same time the Big East Tournament is going on should increase media coverage at the event. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. That’s the reason Brooklyn was selected.

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Finding a mid-major big man is a tough job

Basketball Prospectus’ Drew Cannon put out his Top 100 players for the 2011-12 season over the past week and a half or so. There are 12 players ranked in the Top 100 that fall in one of the six conferences I’ve already grabbed similarity score data for. Thus I wanted to take a look at some of those comparisons. First up is Gonzaga’s Robert Sacre who is #98 on the list.

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Player similarities: Justin Harper

Justin Harper is getting hype as a late first round pick and it’s pretty easy to understand why. At 6’9 he should be able to play either forward position in the NBA and he can shoot the lights out. But what makes Harper great also makes it difficult to find comparisons. Eight of his 10 comps come from one conference, but it’s not the Atlantic 10, and they also leave some doubts about his skills will translate to the next level.

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